The Huoniao HN125-8 / Haotian Vixen, Value For Money?

- Honda CM125

- Huoniao HN125-8
I was spending £280 a month in petrol for my car back in April of 2008, that was just going to work and back, luckily for me I had a free hidden parking space at work and since I started work so early and finished so late I did not have to worry about the congestion charge, but still the thoughts of paying out over £3000 a year just on petrol was pissing me off, so I decided to look for a cheaper mode of transport. This led me to the Huoniao HN125-8.
After hours of Google searches with “Cheap Motorbike” I stumbled across an E bay Phenomenon which was cheap Chinese imports. These are exactly what they say on the tin, a cheap carbon copy of a Japanese bike with the emphasis on cheap! Now don’t get me wrong, when I say cheap i mean money wise, my Huoniao cost me £599 + £65 delivery, Its Clone the Honda CM125 costs (if your still able to buy them) a whisker under £2000. So what did i get for my £664 I hear you ask, I got a motorbike, a brand new cheap Chinese motorbike, a cheap mode of transport, exactly what I was looking for!
The Beginning
On the 08th April 2008 I handed over £664 of my hard earned cash to LS Imports LTD (I had bought it from their EBay shop), Now just to set the record straight, I know they might not have the best reputation and they may have had a couple of disgruntled buyers but I am not one of them, I had no problems with them at all, they were nice, friendly and accommodating and I felt happy to contact them with any questions and would be happy to purchase from the again (this time with a discount :-0).
The Huoniao cost me £599 inc Vat + £65 delivery to my door but what you must remember is that you will have to put (parts of) this bike together as it arrives boxed and on a pallet. I borrowed this picture from a website in April but I cant seem to find it now to link to it (so thank you) but this is the way my bike came.

Borrowed Picture
So 2 days later I received all my bikes details in the post (you will need these to register it) and that evening my pallet arrived.
I am not in the slightest mechanically minded so this was a challenge but it wasn’t so bad as the majority of the bike is together, it took me by myself about 4hrs to put it together as you can see in the pictures but what I will say is take your time, I am very impatient, especially with a new toy but trust me on this, no instructions come with the bike so your best off taking your time. If you are the type of person who needs instructions they are available here but at an un-believable price

My bike stage 1

Stage 2

Stage 3

My Finished Bike
If you Google “Huoniao HN125-8″ you will get a few hits but most of what you read will be bad about the bike, don’t feel disheartened, this bike is a good bike but some people have had bad experiences with it like Jamie van Dyke who had terrible trouble with both the bike and LS Imports and Lincolndod’s blog who has had difficult experience’s, but If you take your time and put this bike together with care and attention you should not have problems.
My suggestions.
- Superglue every nut, bolt and screw you can find then tighten as much as humanly possible.
- First WD40 and then grease every connection, connection block, switch and anything else you can see, pay particular attention to the cut off switch on the side stand as this is renowned for giving problems in the rain (Ive never had a problem with it though).
- Tighten, tighten, tighten.
You will have to register your bike with the DVLA at a cost of £55 + £15 for your fist years tax but to register it you will need to Insure it, Now when it comes to Chinese imports most bike insurance companies wont even spit on you let alone quote you, so just go to Rampdale who specializes in insuring Chinese bikes.
Once you get insured bring all your details to your local DVLA to register your bike, this can take up to 2 weeks if your unlucky (giving you plenty of time to go over the bike again and again to tighten and Greece). Once registered they will send you the forms you need to get a licence plate made and once you have that bobs your uncle.
Go easy on it your first few times just to get used to it.
Some More Suggestions And Reminders
The speedo is in KM/ph and M/ph but the counter is in KM only.
Change the oil after the first 100km to get rid of the crap it was shipped with.
Change oil at 500km and spend some time tightening.
Change oil and spark plug at 1000km and then oil every 1000km after.
The tyres are cheap (Nylon) and designed for Chinese roads and weather so if it rains you will slide, I suggest you get a decent set of tyres.
Take care of the bike and it will last along time, You have 3yrs before it is due an MOT so by that stage you could throw it away and buy a new one.
Conclusion
I have done just over 3500km on my bike and it hasn’t let me down once. My total cost has been:
Huoniao HN125-8 £599
Delivery £65
Registration £55
1yrs Tax £15
1yrs Insurance £220
CBT £120
Motorcycle cloths (Jacket,boots,bottoms,gloves,helmet) £185
Total: £1269 which includes a years insurance, cloths, etc.. and is still £730 cheaper than buying its equivalent Japanese counterpart.
Petrol for my car over the past 5 months would have cost me £1400, Petrol for my Huoniao over the last 5 months has cost me £118.68.
I have bought a motorcycle, Insured it, Taxed it, Bought all the equipment I need for it and fuelled it all for less than what I would spend on petrol in my car.
Now Thats Value For Money
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Hi,
We are having problems with a bike that we bought second hand and everyone seems to start with the side stand switch, please could you explain where on the bike this is locarted!
Thanks
hi i am having starting problems with the hn125-8.can u help in anyway plz,ihave changed the sparkplug+ it was ok but when stopped .it was awfull if not impossible to start again.thanks..barry.
Hi Barry is it a new bike or old? Have you checked out the side-stand switch? get a tin of WD40 and cover the electric and plunger connected to the side stand, then see if you can see a cable leading from the switch under the bike, nearly directly under the middle of the bike the cable should run into a type of junction/connector dose this with your WD40 and this should cure it.
Let me know
I had the same problem with my huniao 125 and I brought it off the same dealer. If you are having problems try the side stand. follow the ignition cable down – it will lead you to the side stand. remove the covering and check that the chain has not dug in to the igniton cable as this is what happened with mine. if you have left it for a few months because of the weather you will have problems starting it! What you need to do is get some jump leads, connect it from your car battery on to your bike battery and it should fire right up. I know everyone says try the side stand but this is usually the case why they won’t fire up! from the reviews of read most people have the same problem and near enough every time this will be the issue.
Hello and thanks for such an illuminating information about the HN125…it seems a great little bike…
Might I ask you a some questions which someone of your experience is always grateful to receive their qualified opinion.
My partner said… no way my dear you put that bike together…you get it for it will allow you a much lower carbon footprint (do you know its CO2 grammes ouput per km?)- and you can use it when it is too far to go on your push bike (we live in hilly east Cornwall)…
So here goes.
1. Does it really do over 100 mpg? The CM125 Custom is rated at 80-85mpg so if it does there is one up for HN over the CN!
2. Is there a bike front guard for the HN? If so where can one get it from.
3. I am not a techno geek so I was told that there are two options; one company who distribute them charge £60 just – over for putting it together and hopefully ensuring it will run, but then I will have a turnaround distance of almost 600 miles to collect. Would it be better to have it delivered pay for this and have a pro put it together
and test it? (I have no garage space either)…..????
All best wishes,
Nigel Miles
(deep in the Tamar Valley of east Cornwall…might you know of any dealers here or in the South West?)
01822 833626
4. This blinking side stand switch. What have HN done to overcome this problem and if they have not what can a local pro do to ensure, that all I want is a little 125 can start and run well if looked after with TLC.
Thanks again and I would like to know how to overcome these concerns. And by the way is there an HN 125 Club?????
Hi Nigel
I am glad that you like my blog, unfortunately I dont know the CO2 grammes ouput per km but Judging by the mileage per gallon it cant be that high.
To answer your questions:
1) I was averaging 122 mpg and I am not the most economical rider.
2) By front guard I presume you mean engine guard? (something like what you would find on the Jinlun) It does not come with one but im sure you can adjust a pre-made Jinlun one with little effort but I do think it would look oversized for the bike.
3) I would always advise a professional to put it together but I have also heard of a lot of dealers just trowing them together! To answer your question though you will have to factor in a few things, both options have their pros & cons, 600miles is a long distance to travel to collect anything and if this is a new bike you will be taking frequent breaks on the way back so it wont overheat as this will be the bikes running in period. on the other hand if you were to get it delivered its cheaper, you can be sure its put together and tightened properly but then you have to factor in the weather as even though it should only take a professional a couple of hours to put together, since you have no garage it would be done out in the open! great on a nice summers day but not so good on a cold, wet winters morn.
4) The side switch stand is easily disconnected but if done I advise you to never use the side stand only the centre stand (the last thing you need is to realize you left the stand down as your doing 40mph around a bend!) or you could just keep it dosed with WD40 and you shouldn’t have a problem.
As far as I know there is no club for the HN125.
I hope this has put your concerns at ease, let me know if you have anymore questions.
ps: I dont know of any dealers in the south west but contact these http://www.chinesemotorcycledealers.co.uk/aboutus.html as they are the actual importers to the uk and they are based somewhere in the south west (Somewhere in Devon i think) but they will also have all the UK dealers details.
Hello repox1st,
Thanks for replying so quickly and thoroughly.
I use to have a Honda CM250T which I still have ( and paid yes £695 in 1998, but have not used for many years and understand what the courier type bike is. This one had long term carburettor problems, but in reality they are a heavy bike, not too good on mpg…about 55-60pg…that is why I am not so thrilled for the HN125. There is another lookalike bike as the HN 125 but it is virtually £500 MORE, which after travelling to obtain is about £300 more…so the difference is a lot and that includes having it delivered. My local motorbike man is a registered dealer and knows a lot about all types of bikes, and although he charges about £42.00 an hours to have it delivered to him and pay for his time to construct it would be okay. Would you like to make and comments which I could pass on to him that he should look for and adjust to when starting the bike and allowing it to settle in after first starting and trying.
On delivery does instructions come with regaular mainetenace checks; when to oil change after first use, plugs and the like? (It does have two cylinders, presumably as it has two exhausts?) You did say about 100kms; what oil is recommended? and can parts for it be obtained ourselves or would they be ordered and delivered to my local pro-biker who would put the bike together.
Body work would you say it is of a good quality or what?
Just out of interest what is the CBT payment?
Thanks again and it is great that this site exists. Well done.
Best wishes,
Nigel
Hi Nigel
No instructions come with the bike but It is mostly common sence and should be easy for an experienced bike man as I had no experience and I put mine together!
The tips I would give is remember this bike has traveled in a boat from china for god know’s how long, In that time nuts and bolts coming loose is inevitable so once the bike is together I would loosen every nut and bolt I can see and use treadlock (or superglue) to prevent any future problems then cover every inch in wd40 especialy the electrics let it dry (takes a long time) and buff it off the bodywork, your speedo and odometer will be in KM so do your services related to that as in every 1000km not miles.
Its only one cylinder and you should change the oil after the first 100km or so coz it is shipped with cheap crap, any decent oil will do 10w/40w halfords does good but if you notice problems changing gears after an oil change I would change to a different brand but mineral is best semi sync is just as good.
At every service check your nuts and bolts as they do come loose but dont overtighten just threadlock them tightly in place and you shouldnt have a problem.
I would service first 100km, 500km, 1000km and then every 1000KM
My CBT cost £120 but im sure theres cheaper out there.
Body work is deacent but keep an eye out for rust, spare parts should be easily advailble from your bike supplier if not Honda replacement parts should work.
I think thats all your questions, any more feel free to ask
Hi and thanks again for your speedy reply.
I wonder if all the nut and bolt tightening is because they are shipped this way from China….or they do not understand WD40…(should do some areas of China are warm and wetter than the UK so they should understand the need for greaseproofing and antirust treatment….)
What actually does CBT stand for (shows my ignorance I’m afraid!)
Is the CM125 only one cylinder too??? So having two exhaust outlets in this fashion is very progressive for a Chinese bike…but so we thought that to the original Hondas/Yammies after our BSA and Triumphs…
The SW Distribution Centre you suggested in Exeter does not have any more local distributors for the HN they have copy bikes with different names, but I believe these are chosen because of more of a mark up for them, over £200 more expensive overall.
By the way what speed can you get it up too? Some have recorded 65mph or about 105kph…but that does not worry me; being a more balance rider 50/80 is perfectly respectable speed for me in our Cornish roads and lanes…anyway my 7 yr old does not want to go over 30/50…(but wait until he is older)
My nearest distributor is in Portsmouth and if I can adapt my trailer to move the bike it would be slightly cheaper to pick it up myself…about 140 miles away/280 roudn trip…so I am now just waiting on raising about £870 plus the comp annual insurance of about £177..Not bad for a brand new and hopefully well functioning, and if you do not mind me saying a damn good looking m’bike!
Thanks once again…you have been a terrific help!
Nigel
You have really been helpfu
The CM125 is a twin and so in theory produces more torque. Just bought mine on e-bay. Needs a bit of tidying but a steal at £175.
CBT is “Compulsory Basic Training”. Together with the theory test it is the minimum requirement for being on the road. One day’s worth of training to give you some idea about riding. You would then have 2 years to pass the full test (usually the A2 licence)or retake the CBT.
Great guys
Had my bike about 2 months. Not had a single problem, until yesterday in the rain, when I was in traffic and the revs dipped off and the bike cut out. It then wouldn’t restart, by kick or the electric starter – though the electric start was turning fine. After about an hour of intermitant fiddling it started on the electric start. BUT while idle I can here the timing is out.
First thing I’ll do is re-grease all the electrics and change the spark. See if that sorts it.
As this seems to be turning into the unofficial members club, I’ll keep you all posted. If anyone with some Web-nous wants to set up a page – hey, ill send in some pictures!
I’m planning on plodding through Europe on mine over the summer. With the fuel efficiency it’ll be a cheap trip.
Satisfied HN 125-8 owner
Tom
Hi Tom
Glad you like the blog,
At the risk of sounding like a broken record it does actually sound like the side switch stand, even though it might not have happened before water tends to work its way into it over time especially if its been raining, if the starter is still turning over but not catching it could be that, the spark plug or the connection (HT lead) to the spark plug. I would nuke them all with wd40 and see if it makes a difference.
Let us know how it goes.
Good idea about the website unfortunately I wouldnt have the first clue about starting one, It wwill be great to hear about your journey so keep us up to date.
Hi
Great blog had mine since nov 08 had mine put together by bike experts which touch wood have not had a problem,
Love bike great to ride a bit wobberly at 60-65 for some reason my speedo does not seem correct as in the speed i do, it feels like i’m 10 mph behind what it says so if i’m doing 40 mph it seems like i’m doing 30 anyone any ideas.
Cheers
Sprosser
Hi Sprosser
Glad you like the blog
It seems to be inherent with Chinese bikes as they all seem to be off by at least 5mph including my Jinluns and even newer bikes, I think it boils down to someone messing up the calculations and or translations
I dont know of anyway to fix it apart from getting it re-calibrated (which I dont think is even possible) but i dont think Id want to either as its saved my bacon a few times with speed traps and I also kinda like the little quirks this bike has.
Thanks very much for that. your right it will save with camera’s.
I could see if i could help with a web page!
Just another thank-you note for putting this page up. I’ve got my HN-125 on order from LS Imports now, and am eagerly awaiting delivery, so that my mid life crisis can begin in earnest.
I’ll try to document my own build-up for the benefit of future owners.
Hi Rodgerborg
Welcome to the blog.
Its the best time of year to get it as its starting to heat up.
Just make sure you tighten all the nuts and bolts before your first ride.
Sure, I have a giant box of assorted spring washers and an industrial sized order of loctite already winging its way to me.
Bike-in-a-box arrived today, and the build-up went pretty smoothly. I’ve only got 2 chrome nuts and bolts and 4 blanking plugs left over.
Something that’s puzzling me is how to secure the throttle/lights/starter/master switch assembly to the handlebar. There’s only two screws in it, which don’t seem to hold it securely enough. There’s also a mysterious empty large hole, next to the throttle cable hole… Any ideas?
Good to hear you gave joined the club pal
I’ll have to have a look when I get home about the hole, with the starter setup I wrapped some insulating tape around the handle bar first and gripped it on that way with the screws
Ah, thanks! Mine is on tight now: I just needed to be a bit more manly with the screws. The ’spare’ bolts were for the battery posts. My only snafu was plugging the breather rather than the fuel line into the fuel selector. Well, in my defence, there’s two dangling lines from the carb, and the breather was poking out further…
One fuel spill and a quick diagnosis and switch-around later, I’ve now got a runner, after about 3 hours of build time. I’m really surprised how easy and common sense it all was, but then that’s why I went for this bike. I was worried about getting it from vertical to horizontal, but it turned out to be easy enough to just tip it towards me and then take the weight and lower it down. Also, finally getting it out of the bottom of the frame involved just lifting the back end up and to the side, then repeat for the front end. 130kg sounds like a lot, but it’s easy enough to shift around.
The only tricky bit was getting the forks up to get the front wheel on. For the benefit of anyone reading this, I just carefully car-jacked up the bottom of the frame until I could haul the bike up onto the centre stand, and then it was a doddle.
I’m loctiting religiously as I go; it’s pretty funny that the only bolts that seem to have spring washers are the front mudguard ones.
Now that I see the bike in the flesh, I’m really liking the looks and proportions. I nearly went for a Jinlun or Nevada, and I’m glad that I didn’t now; the HN125 is a more… bikish… bike.
Just a quick note that I’ve started documenting my experience with the HN125 over at http://bikeinabox.blogspot.com/
Hi everyone.
I got my bike at the end of last year but due to problems I had with the garage and the DVLA I am only now able to use it on the roads!! However, I do have a problem with it. It starts up fine with the choke one but will not come of the choke, when I turn the choke of it struggle for power and dies. If I rev the bike with the chock of it struggles and does not rev high. Does anyone have any ideas what could be wrong with it or how it can be fixed?
Hi Davec
If you are used to other bikes the choke is back to front, Whwn you think its on its actually off and vice versa, try it and leave it for 10mins to heat up and see how it goes
hey everyone, ia, from germany, just orderes a bike in box.
hope it will be a good bike for me. i will tell you more when i got it.
Hi
Thanks for the reply. I’ve left it to heat up and still it will not come of the choke. I think that the jets in the carb may be blocked or that the fuel mix is too weak. Does that sound about right?
Sorry about that dude, your best off going through the basics as in: are the breather pipe’s (little black rubber tubes) blocked or kinked, is the fuel tap on, etc…
I had the exact problem with mine on the first day so bad that I got a new carb sent to me but all that was the problem was I was using the choke back to front, I thought that because it started without the choke it must have been in the on position but it wasnt and as soon as I switched it off (I was actually switching it on!!) It killed the engine.
Nice to see another happy Huoniao owner setting up a site to share his experience of owning this great 125.
hi
What engine oil do you recomend?
And does any one know how to take the baffles out to me it looks like they are riveted and welded.
Cheers
Hi Pal, I have no ideas about the baffles myself but some else reading might have, re: engine oil I use halfords 10w/40w its cheap and does the job, just dont get fully synthetic as it might start your clutch slipping
hey everyone
does anyone know where i can get spare parts for this bike?
thanks.
LS Imports should have most spare’s in stock http://www.asiamotorcycle.co.uk/
You can also get parts from:
http://www.chinesemotorcyclepartsonline.co.uk/
If you can’t find specific Huonaio parts, try Haotian Vixen, or just ask the seller; like as not, they’ll know which bit fits.
hi
i get my Hn 125 last week, its a good bike for little money, it runs vey well.( 300km last two days) but i have a problem. when the engine is warm and i stop the engine it doensnt restart. when i wait some minutes it suddenly starts. what can be the problem? which is the best sparkplug for the HN ?
greetings fred
It sounds like the engine is flooding, Have you got the choke half on when riding?
NGK D8EA would be the best sparkplug for it, you can get them from Halfords
As a belated reply:
1) Ensure that the choke is off, i.e. that the lever is fully down.
2) Richen the fuel mixture. It comes set really lean to scam emissions checks. It’s the small brass screw mounted vertically on the front of the carb. It’ll need loosened by about two full turns – warm the engine first, then adjust it until the revs are maximised (then use the idle screw on the side of the carb to reduce to 1500 rpm or so).
And definitely get an NGK D8EA in there ASAP. You could also try a DR8EIX, or a DR9EIX, which will help the engine run a little cooler if you’ve been cooking it.
H All
I got mine (branded as a Lexmoto Vixen 125) from Ped Heaven (Highfield Garage in Braintree – http://www.highfieldmotorcycles.co.uk) in August and it’s been just great – no problems at all except the tendancy to grind the side stand on left handers. I took it for a road trip ‘up north’ and it was fine – easy to get to and stay at 60mph and nippy round country roads etc – handling’s not brilliant (I used to ride ‘proper’ bikes years ago without a full licence – nobody bothered with licences then!)but it’s OK for what it is and fine for the speed it’ll do.
It came assembled, checked, registered (and even supplied number, L plates, and filled it with petrol!) and delivered it to me in Edinburgh, and while it cost a couple of hundred more,it’s not a bad deal if you’ve nowhere to deliver/assemble it to – I live in a flat.
Anyway, glad to hear there a running commentry/help group on the bike – by the way, does anybody know how to derestrict it?
cheers
Ricardo
Hi, Guys! You just forced me to think seriously about HN-125… I am going to feed up my interes next month))))). The website will up later after assembly “do it yourself” bike kit))))
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Hi,
Don’t see much mention of the D word – Derestrict.
Anybody tried this or know how to do it? It surely can’t be too difficult to get just a little more grunt out of the HN125-8 without harming the engine, can it?
Hola, soy de España.Tebgo la huoniao 125-8. Alguien me puede mandar a edysaez2211@hotmail.com el manual en pdf? Necesito imagenes para aprender. muchas gracias.
hi i have got a houniao hn 125/8 could you please tell me how to derstrict this bike please bob
Hola Bob, si consigues algo me lo mandas por favor a mi direccion de correo. gracias.
Hi, yo quisiera saber como cambiar el aceite, y como desmontar el asiento para ponerla unas alforjas. gracias.